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April 22, 2008What'll Hill Use As Her Reason For SDs to Vote For Her Now?Now that the last big state's past that Clinton has any kind of chance in, and she's failed to get a big enough margin to win the natl popular vote, what's the campaign gonna hand out as the reason for SuperDelegates to vote for her? As many of we Obamoids From Space projected, she won PA by an Ohiolike margin, which is nothing like enough. Posted by Jon Kay at April 22, 2008 11:40 PMComments
Thats pretty simple. She is going to play the GOP card. Sure Obama gets the black vote; but that is not going to go to McCain anyways. Her people will privately whisper that Obama will not be able to pull enough of the swing white voters in states like Ohio, West Virginia, Florida and Pennsylvania to win the Electoral College. While it may not be a pretty argument, it does have merit. Posted by: Jim M at April 23, 2008 08:44 AMThe popular vote makes the headlines, as expected. But the relative delegate count barely budged. More important, probably, is the reaction for potential donors. With her campaign already deeply in debt, can Clinton raise enough money off of the PA results to keep going? Somehow, I suspect that the big donors have either already maxed out, or know enough to be underwhelmed by the results. And will whatever small donors she can muster be enough? But we shall see over the next few days. Then again, perhaps she can keep going by continuing to stiff everybody she can. If I was asked by the Clinton campaign to rent or buy anything at this point, I would insist on full payment up front. And that the checks clear first, too. Posted by: wj at April 23, 2008 10:10 AMBwa ha ha! The Cannibal Feast continues apace. More popcorn, anyone? Posted by: Tully at April 23, 2008 10:50 PMI think it pretty telling that the best argument for Obama is that Hillary hasn't done enough. Facts are, in the states Democrats need to win in the general election, she is cleaning his clock. If the Democrats picked their nominee like the electoral college was decided, Obama would have dropped out months ago. I wonder how Super Delegates are going to pick Obama when he looks less competitive than Hillary in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania? If they lose both of those states... John McCain is going to be the President. I think they have a problem. Anyone who argues the Clinton's can't raise enought money has been living in a box for the last 16 years. Posted by: Starbucks Republican at April 23, 2008 11:02 PMYes, of course, Tully. That'll be just $17, please... Actually, in fairness, wj, today I read Hill used the V to stump up more money. Posted by: Jon Kay at April 24, 2008 04:09 PMJon, I saw that, too. It will be interesting to see what she spends it on. Posted by: wj at April 24, 2008 08:25 PMNow that the last big state's past that Clinton has any kind of chance in, and she's failed to get a big enough margin to win the natl popular vote As I've pointed out before, it's all in how they're counted. It's NOT the "national popular vote" when you exclude two of the largest states. And to point out the Yogi Berra obvious, it ain't over 'til it's over, and the primaries are not over. And is it really all that wise to make cracks about no big states remaining and the popular vote when you're supporting a candidate whose only big-state popular vote win was his home state? Of course, what actually counts is the number of committed delegates. Or so President Gore told me. The superdelegates are going to decide the nominee this time, an open return to the closed back room process. Those 341 FL/MI delegates sure could have avoided that. By my figuring, positions in the overall delegate count between Clinton and Obama would be reversed right now if those states had been counted and ALL of MI's "uncommitted" votes assigned to Obama. Whose campaign was it again that obstructed all attempts to mediate a solution there? To find a way around the FL/MI mess, even get a re-vote or re-caucus? Oh, right. Mr. Change & Hope. Well, I think we be pretty sure of how well he's gonna do in FLorida and Michigan in a general election. That'll be just $17, please... You're going to charge ME for GIVING AWAY popcorn? Wow, you really ARE a Democrat! ;-) The recent polls showing how strongly both candidates' supporters are now feeling against their opponent is really interesting. I didn't think it could happen AGAIN, but the Democrats have managed to take an in-the-bag election and fumble it away. (Fine by me, since I support McCain, but still astounding.) I think it will go to the convention, despite Dean's plea for a merciful ending to this by June. After all, Tully's right that she could legitimately claim that he's only ahead because two key states are being left out, and that he has serious defects as a nominee. Posted by: WeekendPundit at April 29, 2008 05:10 PM |
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