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September 16, 2007

Israel Bombed Targets in Syria, Nuclear-Related?

According to the London Times, Israel bombed selected targets in Syria said to be nuclear-related. More here, and here (hat tip, insta).

Sounds good to me. Although, I hope they took more care with their WMD intelligence than we did in Iraq. They might not've - they're rumored to also torture for intelligence.

Posted by Jon Kay at September 16, 2007 06:00 PM
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Good find Jon, I had missed this one.

Posted by: Maxtrue at September 17, 2007 08:22 AM

A follow up.....

Posted by: Maxtrue at September 17, 2007 12:46 PM

"The North 'never makes an empty talk but always tells truth,' the ministry said in the statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency." (AP) out of North Korea today. LOL and the North Koreans are a peace loving nation too.

The silence over this is strange indeed. Does anyone think that if Israel had bombed Syria for no supportable reason, Assad wouldn't be screaming? What is Russia's role in providing UPS to the NKs? And does anyone think that Iran is LESS a partner in WMD with NK? Perhaps there is much going on right now that no one wants to disclose to the press.

Finally, there is some evidence that Saddam moved part of his WMD related projects to Syria before our invasion. Convoys were seen going into Syria as well as nuclear scientists. This entire picture reveals the problems of containing WMD when the players with help from Pakistan, China and Russia hide from Western monitoring. With silent subs, emergency air lifts during emergencies (see Syrian planes going to Iran after earthquake) and third party UPS, it will hard to spot where and when threats rear their ugly heads.

Why worry? When we are attacked we'll just nuke....er...Iran? NK? Chavez? Pakistan?

Your guess is as good as mine.

Posted by: Maxtrue at September 18, 2007 09:47 AM

The Economist is flabbergasted at the Syrian silence. They speculate that it was something Syria would've been embarrassed to talk about.

Posted by: Jon Kay at September 18, 2007 09:51 PM

Perhaps Syria was caught totally off-guard, shocked by the crappy air defense and most of all, seeking at all costs to cover the program they have been working on with others who demand silence. Imagine the international community (let alone the Democrats here) finding out Saddam did move materials to Syria and the Bekka Valley as well as getting help from NK, Iranian, Russian and Iranian help. GlobalSecurity has reported on the Syrian/Iranian WMD pact for years. The last thing Assad wants is his cover blown, especially when his Sunni neighbors are already furious with his polocies to date.

Now who would want the administration to find evidence that actually support the idea that the nexus of terrorism and WMD is alive and well? Who would want other regimes to be worse than OBL and his ilk in Pakistan?

This might be THE big secret because it really undermines the embattled concept of pre-emption and the fears which ran through ALL our minds on 9/11. The only way to confront a Russian, Chinese, Syrian, NK, Iranian axis is internationally. That is not to say, individuals can't be subject to unilateral action. Russia and the IAEA are not the final arbitors of our self-interest and I doubt many will side with Putin. Time for the big squeeze? Not during the election unless events take front page. Perhaps that was what was behind France's recent remarks.

I remember how the NYT cast the Israeli attack on Saddam's reactor. Notice the difference between then and today?

And imagine Hillary as President, finding out that Bush was right in a number of regards and confronted by a totally escalating situation. She is pinned between an anti-war Left and Republicans saying I told you so. An attack here would be the clincher for Democratic disorder.

Only a post primary course correction by Democrats which gets real could escape this later trouble. Sure, the Republicans will probably pay a price for Iraq, but terrorism and WMD may cost the Democrats in 2012 and make a mess of the next several years. I'm waiting to see if Democratic leadership will understand this come January.

The Democrats have to deal with reality and base strategy on likely facts. Instead of looking deeply into real causes, the Nutroot wing believes Cheney ordered 9/11 and Diebold stole the last election. Although the Republicans have holes in their plans, the Democrats at this point DO NOT HAVE ONE and have many of their supporters exhibiting holes in their grey matter.

Posted by: Maxtrue at September 19, 2007 09:18 AM

Wow, that was bad....


"well as getting help from NK, Iran, Russia and China."

that's better..

Posted by: Maxtrue at September 19, 2007 09:20 AM

There has also been mention of Syrian WMD accidents of late, ones that killed a fair number of their own people. Well, if you play with the wrong toys and don't wear the right equipment....

Given Syria, though, the odds of getting any solid confirmation approach zero.

Posted by: Tully at September 19, 2007 10:19 AM

Well, Iran let this slip out. What is more amazing is that besides the administration, few political leaders are even talking about the tensions being raised. Russia is bitching that ONLY the UN Security Counsel should approve sanctions and that individual countries are wrong to impose their own on Iran or others. Russian and Chinese sanctions would do a lot in curbing Sudan, Syria, Iran, and NK. As long as they can thwart world opinion, there will be no UN third wave of sanctions.

I guess the Russians would like to see Iran have nukes before sanctions are imposed. Their logic applied in Iraq as well.

You're right about Syria and if Syria cried foul, who cares? The Saudis, Jordanians, the EU, Turkey? If someone hits Iran before next November's election, I will love to see how the Democrats spin it. OBL might be a very very bad man, but the real problems lies with regimes that can produce and export to nasty third parties, WMD. AQ will become the stamp that third parties use in false flag operations. Soon Iranians/Chavez will be helping Mexican rebels blow up more pipelines. The silent subs are just one way to keep technological pipelines open between anti-American parties.

{As a note: The burning seawater news Tully posted a week back brings up a semi-secret Navy capability. I think I have linked here or at SF a summary of a naval system that can triangulate under water three or more EM streams causing anything at the point of convergence to disintergrate. It has something to do with resonance and first, resonace detection. I also believe this is llinked to the sonar systems California banned recently from being used in war games off their coast. A similar technology used by our foes could cause "accidents" to our underwater pipelines and listening posts. There may be another game played under the seas that remains silent in the press. I suppose the same science can be used in the air as well, but with more visibility to the press.}

I wonder what the Russians have taught the Iranians about jamming the GPS of our cruise missiles. They had better hope their air defense is better than Syria's.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Saudis and Israelis work together to knock off Syrian scientists or cause some "accidents" at those WMD sites.

Posted by: Maxtrue at September 19, 2007 11:39 AM

Syria responds

I wonder with Hizb'Allah in Turkey, Indian terrorists outsourcing suicide attacks to Muslims, terrorists in Mexico, the Left will wake up. I certainly have. To reduce our focus to OBL when the present game plan regarding Pakistan is resulting in Musharraf taking off his uniform and forming a strategy with Bhutto (best option), is bad policy. The axis of crap is spreading and any Democrat who thinks this won't follow them into the WH is seriously miscalculating.

Posted by: Maxtrue at September 19, 2007 02:13 PM

Well, at least it's clear that my fear of intelligence mistake was misplaced. Otherwise, Syria would've been squawking wide and far about "Zionist Aggression".

Posted by: Jon Kay at September 19, 2007 04:53 PM

Pretty bold, eh?

And Syria wonders why the world holds them accountable for murders in Lebanon?

Posted by: Maxtrue at September 21, 2007 09:13 AM

Report from Defense Tech

Posted by: Maxtrue at September 21, 2007 04:53 PM
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