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April 10, 2007

Death Threat Kerfuffle Causes Tim O'Reilly To Propose Blog Code of Conduct

The usually-thoughtful Tim O'Reilly perturbed by recent incivility and death threatsagainst friends of his, has proposed a draft blog code of conduct. It includes such gems as not tolerating anonymous or incivil comments, and assuming legal responsibility for comments.

So far, on the O'Reilly thread's comments, feeling runs about 200:10 against, so I don't think we need to worry just yet. Until the Congressional hearings, of course, bwahahaha....

I posted one of those 200 comments. Here it is:

First, I want to express my sympathy for you, your friends, and everybody else recently threatened.

But, that doesn't mean this is going to help. What's going to help is understanding that some people are edgy and abusive, talking to police about threats you have reason to take seriously and deleting off-boundary posts personally. Or disabling comments for your blog, which plenty of people do. These are tools we already have.

Over the years, I've seen too many insightful, informative, anonymous comments that could never have been made with IDs to be willing to go along with any policy that will ban them.

And sometimes I feel it serves my purposes to keep offensive comments. Trolls, spam, and threats are different, of course, and we all use the tools we have.

And a polite Internet would be intolerably stiff and unfunny. How many good jokes are polite?

Posted by Jon Kay at April 10, 2007 09:53 PM
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Normally, I would agree with you, especially on sites like this one that exist for the discussion of topics that are likely to be controversial. But this topic reeks of But there is a section of the blogosphere that is actually dedicated to getting things done in the tech industry. What's the end goal? To ensure maximum debate or to ensure maximum content production? I'm not the biggest fan of Creating Passionate Users (Kathy S's blog), but a lot of people are. If poor conduct by a few s*heads causes her to stop blogging, then we're all the worse off for it. If an opt-in identification policy means a large group of people can keep receiving the content they want, then that's their business. They lose the benefit of freer debate, but they keep Kathy and all the other "normal people" who wouldn't blog if

Posted by: mr chippy at April 11, 2007 10:45 AM

they knew that part of blogging is developing a tough skin and knowing how to deal with death threats. I'm not enamored with Tim's solution at all, but the 'can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen' chorus ain't cutting it either.

Posted by: mr chippy at April 11, 2007 10:56 AM

If you can't stand the heat, you can customize your kitchen to suit your needs.

While I am appreciative of the virtues of civility, I am unpersuaded that incivility is best cured via a one-size-fits-all policy that enforces civility.

IOW, to each blog its own. There are plenty of different good models out there that foster the sort of civility (or its lack) that suits the given blogger. And that's as it should be, IMO.

But any death threat ought to be a criminal matter. Forget Emily Post and go with the FBI. There's no point in addressing death threats with a blogger's code of conduct. A much better approach would be to take such threats with deadly seriousness, investigate them, and put some folks in jail. And do so prominently. Anonymous death threats are not a new thing, they're an old and especially cowardly action. And I'm all for using 21st century methods to hold such cowards to account.

Posted by: bk at April 11, 2007 12:44 PM

Once someone who was mentally imbalanced (I found out later from other bloggers on the site, he had posted the medication he was taking and had been banned before for behavioral problems) was berating me and threatening me everywhere I posted on the blog. Eventually, and stupidly, I told him to back off or I would have some Russian friends of mine pay him a visit. We both did not know who we really were or where exactly we lived. Anyway, he informed the board he had construed my remarks as a death threat and had called the FBI in NYC, so I played his bluff and called the FBI myself. I told an agent what I said, why I said it and the board pages the thread had taken place on. Despite telling me not to worry, they did tell me that plausible threats (even from behind usernames) could be followed up in investigations. They took my number, handle, and told me if they had any questions, they would call me back. A friend who is currently directing safety for NASA's shuttle program told me not to sweat it. He often spoke to the FBI in order to get approval for friends to visit NASA and get the “special tour”. You need a background check for this. Still, some posters were so upset about the incident they never posted there again. BK has a point.

Posted by: Maxtrue at April 11, 2007 05:16 PM
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