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January 20, 2007Islam And TolerationI see some common misunderstandings about Islamic history that I think are worth clearing up, especially concerning religious tolerance, the nature of early Muslim empire and success, how said empire decayed, and comparisons between Christian and Islamic Reformations. Some commenters have looked at the Protestant Reformation, looked at contemporary successes of extreme Islamism, and wondered when the corresponding Islamic Reformation will be. But Christians were extremists, killing for their faith left and right (see the utterly horrid Thirty Years' War), after the Reformation. Really, I think, people are asking when we'll see Islamic religious toleration. But, in fact, that long predated wide Christian toleration, which didn't appear until the 18th century. The real story is that, in general, contrary to Christian progression, Muslim nations started more tolerant and became less tolerant as time went on. Early Islam and Islamic empires grew rapidly because, to most people living in that region, Islamic rule was more tolerant and offered better choices than their previous rulers - mostly the Byzantine Empire, which compelled its subjects to abide by a truly Talibanesque form of Christianity. Early Christians created and have hung on to (Pope Benedict wants us to still hang on to it) to a myth of conversion entirely by the sword, but it doesn't seem to have been like that. This tolerance, unmatched anywhere at the time, made early Islamic culture extremely successful. That's why we use Arabic words to refer to "algebra"and "zero" - because they wrote the books that Christian scholars read to pick up those ideas. They also invented postgraduate university degrees. Muslim nations dominated Mediterranean trade because they allowed certain immigrants that then had ties far away; interestingly, certain trading classes deliberately exchanged kids from far away to compete with that advantage. As time went on, the early Islamic Empire fragmented more and more, starting between Sunni and Shi'a. After a few centuries, fanatic Berbers started to make inroads on conquering some of those fragments, and using power over those fragments to dominate or conquer others. Once the fanatics came to power, that, of course, started the first round of tolerant Islam and culture downhill. They stopped inventing things, had fewer and worse schools, traded less and less, and had less and less turf. The Ottomans stepped into this vacuum. It was a replay of the dissolution of the Byzantines. They won because they were tolerant, and stayed on top because they evolved inherently tolerant habits that encouraged good rule. They were on top until democratic powers evolved better rules, during the 18th and 19th centuries. As the Ottoman Empire failed, due to newspapers bolstering nationalism, and a wide perception within the Empire of Ottoman weakness compared to Western Europe, the subject peoples revolted. Although they were individually free from empire, they were generally individually worse-led than under the Ottomans. Liberalism suffered everywhere in the old areas of Ottoman rule except Turkey, though even Turkey still is only beginning to reach full modern human rights standards and become competitive with the modern democracies. Many Arab nations are having problems now because they offer worse and even less liberal rule than many of their predecessors ruling the same regions - and said predecessors were only liberal by Medieval standards, not a high post to leap. Tolerant strands and traditions of Islam are still powerful, and indeed have gathered strength. They're particularly strong in the tolerant democracies, where goons like the Taliban or el'Sadr can't bash so many heads in. Here and in other tolerant environments, tolerant Muslims vastly outnumber extremists. Indeed, though we can't conduct good polls of most of the Middle East, the repeated strength of moderation in Iraqi polls is a good sign that said dynamic might extend to the rest of the Muslim populations still under oppression, if their voices were free to speak, despite the propaganda. I happen to believe the Bush Administration was right about needing to reliberalize the region to end the collaboration between its bad rulers and terror. Some Interesting Reading: Some interesting background material (see The Caliphate), an essay on Muslim tolerance, and an review of a book on a group of traders in the Caliphate. Posted by Jon Kay at January 20, 2007 05:35 PMComments
Indeed. And one of the best hopes for the Middle East is that the population of Iran is becoming fed up with the inability of their current rules to deliver prosperity. In fact, the current President is facing a serious threat of impeachment/removal. If the US can just hold off presenting a serious external threat (not to mention attack) for a couple of years, we might well see a democratic/secular counter-revolution there. Especially since the mechanisms of democracy are already in place -- all it would take would be to cease vetting all candidates by the religious establishment to see an actual democracy rise up. Not, perhaps, what we would consider a liberal democracy. But miles ahead of what anybody else in the Middle East (save Turkey) has got at the moment. It seems so simple: just don't present Iran with a credible external threat. Now if I could just believe that we could manage that for the next two years.... Posted by: wj at January 20, 2007 06:22 PMThat's a very cogent analysis, Jon. I just don't believe that one can impose "liberalization" from the outside in, and the top down, that's all. Yes, the Americans did it in the 19th century with Japan, but that was because many Japanese saw advantages in opening up trade with the outside world (besides, most of them were still using swords, while the Americans had cannons). Iran, on the other hand, has just about every modern weapon there is, (short of the Bomb). Trying to force them to "liberalize" at the point of American guns will just produce an anti-American backlash that will take a generation to live down. Posted by: Blue Jean at January 20, 2007 11:41 PM> In fact, the current President is facing a serious threat of impeachment/removal. I don't think President Ahmadinejad is going anywhere soon. He wasn't popularly elected; thugs who liked him roamed the streets around Election Day. Notice that the Basij is not among the parties discontented with his rule. My bet is on him accumulating additional power. > I just don't believe that one can impose "liberalization" from the outside in, and the top down... Of course you can't (see Vietnam). But remember that autocracies and Iran's theocratic oligarchy ARE top-down impositions. Thus, chances are good that a majority of the people already want liberalization. So, if you free them in a carefully thought-out manner (and provide for their security during the transition period, sigh), you have a good chance of getting popular support for liberalization, just like we have in Iraq. While Ahmadinejad is subject to the theocrats, rather than anything we would recognize as the will of the people, they can decide that his failure to get the economy working and deal with other domestic issues is causing too much popular unhappiness with the regime. Especially when combined with his spending all his time on posturing over foreign affairs. The "impeachment" process might not be exactly what we would describe with that term, but it is the term that will be used. And, since he's basically a thug with no idea how an economy works (or, likely, even who might know and could tell him), the deterioration is only going to continue until he's gone. Which means that the theocrats are going to be motivated to find a new front man -- whatever the process is called. Posted by: wj at January 22, 2007 03:13 AMUnfortunately this message ( to counter Bush's State of the Union) has more appeal in the Middle East. The Islamist aspiration is very strong and mixes well on the Muslim street with extremist and militant ideology. The times-scale for reformation will probably take much longer than unacceptable escalation in terror and WMD technology, or the life expectancy of "moderate" regimes. Posted by: Maxtrue at January 22, 2007 10:18 PM |
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