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July 18, 2006

Which do you believe?

Jim Kolbe has re-introdcued his bill to kill the penny. I'd like to hear rousing "godd riddances" all round, but CNN says not so fast.

Here's the disconnect part. CNN quotes a Gallup/USA today poll suggesting that 76% of poll respondents would pick up a penny if they saw one on the ground. This sounds WAY off to me. Meanwhile, the unscientific unreliable unsound CNN insta-click poll favors dumping the penny by almost 2 to 1.

'Zup with that? Is that the digital divide, or did 3 out of 4 people decide to have some fun at Gallup's expense? Or what? My personal experince suggests that almost no one would bother to pick up a stray penny. I think I'm going to start leaving them around in high traffic areas, just for fun.

Is the city/county divide that strong? Do people in the heartland and in flyover country cherish each cent? What's going on here.

Posted by Brian Keegan at July 18, 2006 03:38 PM
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Down with the penny!

I would not risk a muscle spasm to pick up a penny.

Posted by: Rick at July 18, 2006 03:45 PM

OK, so I'm a geek, but...

As a grad instructor I once had the class figure out how well it actually paid to pick up pennies, as a lesson in real-world applied analysis. We came up with an hourly rate of a touch over $7/hr for what is literally "stoop labor." (For other coins, just multiply.)

If you refuse to work stoop labor for $7/hr*, you can skip the pennies. I don't. I'm a tightwad. Money is money.

[*--it was a penny every five seconds for 12 pennies a minute, or $7.20/hr]

Posted by: Tully at July 18, 2006 03:59 PM

"See a penny, pick it up; all day long you will have good luck."

That superstition could have something to do with the poll result.

Posted by: Todd Pearson at July 18, 2006 04:29 PM

Like good Ol' Ben Franklin used to say: "A penny saved, is a penny earned." Then again, I don't have back problems.

Posted by: Cavalier829 at July 18, 2006 05:33 PM

I'm guessing that poll respondents when asked "if you see a penny on the ground, would you pick it up" really think in their head "if someone leaves money lying around, but not so much that they would miss it, would you pick it up?" To which any sensible person would reply "oh hell yes." Honstly, my experience is that nobody stops to pick up pennies lying on the ground. and certainly not 76% of people. Probably not even 0.76%

Posted by: Ike at July 18, 2006 06:16 PM

I've got a big jar of dirty pennies.

So how would that 8% sales tax work then? And would Walmart still be able to roll back prices?

Posted by: Dennis at July 18, 2006 06:46 PM

What does picking up pennies have to do with their being a worthwile form of currency? And what about the people who drop the pennies? If they didn't have pennies to drop, they wouldn't be losing them. They could drop nickels instead, making the picker-uppers that much more happy. $35/hr is a professional salary in most places. Pennies are good for putting on train rails for flattening.

Posted by: WHQ at July 18, 2006 11:22 PM

I pick up pennies. But then again, like a lot of thespians, I'm a tad superstitious, so I'm probably not a good example.

Posted by: Blue Jean at July 19, 2006 01:19 AM

Picking up coins off the ground is dangerous; they could have germs or something or could have some sort of terrorist device attached to them.

I wouldn't mind having pennies if you could use them in vending machines.

Posted by: Marc at July 19, 2006 10:04 AM

I just found a penny in the stairwell at the office and picked it up. With the Powerball jackpot tonight at $100 million, I think that I will test that luck superstition.

Posted by: Todd Pearson at July 19, 2006 11:48 AM

Sorry, Todd. A penny only promises good luck, not phenomenal luck. Luck on the order of the traffic light going green when you reach the intersection, or finding a convenient parking space (hopefully, with time left on the meter).

Now, if you found the winning Powerball ticket on the street....;-)

Posted by: Blue Jean at July 19, 2006 01:33 PM

I recently saw a case where somone accidentally threw away a really big winning ticket, and they sued the finder and won, which surprised me quite a bit. The person who found the ticket got ougatz. Zero.

Now I don't know if I'd say "Finders, Keepers" should be the rule.
But if you threw it away without signing it as opposed to having it blow out of your hand after you signed it, I think the rule might reasonably be "tough sh!+."

I guess I feel like anyone who had a big winning ticket and then accidentally threw it away doesn't deserve the money, since they didn't care about it enough to pay attention to what they were doing.

Posted by: bk at July 19, 2006 01:42 PM

The rounding idea proposed in this bill is idiotic to me. 1,4,6 and 7 go down and 2,3,8,9 go up? Plus, how much is it going to cost the economy to reprogram every POS system in the US? Who loses money on the round down and gets it on the round up? It would seem to make more financial sense just to make a cheaper penny. Then throw in the costs of moving the Mint from the Treasury Department to the Federal Reserve.

This whole stupid bill costs more then it is going to save. Just find a cheaper design for the penny and be done with it.

Posted by: Jim M at July 20, 2006 11:33 PM

Jim, whatever those programming costs are, they are one-time costs. Since the penny would be gone forever, it'a actually not possible that the bill could cost more than it would save. Sooner or later, things would HAVE TO tip into the black.

Plus, think of the jobs created by the change.

Posted by: bk at July 21, 2006 09:42 AM
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