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February 25, 2006

H2O: It's not just for drinking

Believe it or not, the USA has one of the largest reserves on the planet of a highly prized liquid resource. Fresh Water! (I'm talking about the Great Lakes by the way.) Interesting enough, water is also a major part of energy production.

I was over on theoildrum.com , and on one of their threads a commenter said:

“...My company is currently suspending drilling operations in Oklahoma due to lack of available water. State, municipal and private water owners have all told us that they will no longer sell water to us. We are experiencing similar problems in Colorado, Wyoming and New Mexico, but not to the degree we have encountered in Oklahoma.
So what we have here in Oklahoma is one resources scarcity(water) precluding the extraction of another (petroleum) declining resource.....”

I knew they used water in oil and gas drilling, but evidently they use substantial quantities.

On the other hand, I have to wonder if the reason water was withheld from the drilling company was because it was a scarce resource, or because their operations caused problems for locals. I have previously read about problems with natural gas drilling operations bad habits. Evidently they pressurize the bore holes to fracture the rock and let the gas seep out. If you have a nearby water well, the water can become undrinkable, or your equipment could be violently expelled from the ground.

Here is a graph of natural gas production in the USA

Water is also a problem when it comes to alternative fuel production. Large quantities of water are used during the creation of ethanol and during the Fischer-Tropsch coal to gasoline process. Large amounts are also used in the extracting of oil from oil shale and tar sand. The quality of effluent from these processes is also a problem. If you're in an area where water is scarce, dumping polluted water is not going to make you popular.

Then there was the little problem France had with its nuclear power plants. Seems that a recent drought endangered their ability to produce power. Everyone calls it “nuclear” power but it's steam that makes the turbines spin. No water means no steam. No steam means no power.

I was raised in the northeast, and spent the second half of my life in the south. To little water was never really a problem for me. In both cases I always lived the proverbial stones throw from a major lake or river. Every decade or so there were some dry years, but I never went thirsty. In fact, rainfall rates in Alabama are occasionally measured in inches per hour. There is a reason the TVA built so many dams around here, and the road side ditches are 5 foot deep.

That's not the story in a lot of other places, water rights are the stuff of hot debate. An that debate is probably going to get hotter. The Colorado River, for instance, no longer runs to the sea. Heavy use of the river as an irrigation source has desiccated the lower course of the river. The Rio Grande is also in danger of becoming extinct. While climate change predictions say evaporation of soil moisture should increase in already dry areas. That's not a good thing. Population growth is already putting pressure on existing water resources in some Western and Midwestern states, as home owners, agriculture and industry compete for water. As population grows, more people means more water requirements.

Posted by BobJYoung at February 25, 2006 12:53 PM
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Los Angeles swallowed the Colorado River long ago. (Ask Jack Nicholson. Hee hee!) Steamboats used to come up the Rio Grande into New Mexico until the drought of 1874, when the vegetation died and the sandbars shifted. States suing other states for violating water rights and taking more than their share have been going on since before most of them were states.

Water may be a renewable resource, but it is not an infinite resource. The rich desert nations have the sense to build their power plants and desalinization plants next door to each other.

Posted by: Tully at February 25, 2006 07:09 PM

Locally there are plans to build a desalination plant that would use the cooling water of the conventional powerplant next door. But this has been on the drawing board since 1998. The main problem right now is that they need buyers for the plant's entire output, since it's most efficient at full output.

These are definately problems to solve. But since such a concentration lives on the coasts, nukes combined with desal plants might work.

Posted by: JonBuck at February 25, 2006 11:16 PM

One problem with using water in the extraction of oil is that it becomes lost water. It won't be able to be used again. If we pump billions of gallons of usable water underground to help extract oil, that is billions of gallons of water that can not be used in the natural recycling supply of water. There is plenty of water on the planet. Problem is that most of it is not fresh. The water is just not where we need it.

Posted by: Jim M at February 26, 2006 02:10 PM

I thought oil and water don't mix.

Posted by: bk at February 26, 2006 02:23 PM

I think that's why it's so important, Brian. The water doesn't mix with the oil, and so the water pressure forces the oil out from the porus rocks and into the well. Or something like that.

Posted by: PatHMV at February 26, 2006 04:36 PM

Right, but what I'm wondering is how such practices take water out of supply if the substances don't mix. Presumedly if they have a natural aversion to combining, you've got a head start on re-using the water later on, say when it makes its way back into the acquifer or if you collect it and filter it.

So I'm wondering why using water to collect oil ruins the water. Maybe there is something in the oil that's toxic or bad tasting that tends to stay with the water instead of the oil when they are mixed at high pressure, I dunno. Just a layman's guess, but it seems it'd have to attach itself pretty vociferously to make distillation impossible.

Posted by: bk at February 27, 2006 09:20 AM

Oil and water do not mix, for the most part. The problem is, you can't just pump the water back out and skim it and get the oil out. You end up with contamination measured in parts per billion. While not visible, there is mixing on a smaller scale. Plus, there are other chemical reactions that occur.

Plus, your bigger problem is the actual extraction. The reason the water is used at all is because there is not enough natural pressure to pump the oil to the surface. So, in order to get the water out, you will have to find something that is denser then water; but not toxic, just to force the water back out.

Posted by: Jim M at February 27, 2006 10:39 AM

I forgot to add, this water does not make it back to the standard aquifer. Water is pulled by a gravity sitation into the aquifer from the surface. The majority of the oil source are well below the aquifer level. The water would not migrate to the aquifer from these locations.

Posted by: Jim M at February 27, 2006 10:43 AM
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