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May 13, 2005No Missionaries, PleaseThe New York Times reports
I know some conservatives are going to go into spin mode and attack the "liberals" and "atheists" who are objecting to a problem they wil argue is non-existent. But a military academy, where young people are coming under authority for the first time in their lives, has to be very careful about how that authority and leadership is used or abused. I'm sad to see this happening, because I have an affection for the academies--the USNA in Annapolis specifically, where I spend a week in a summer program in high school, the first time I ever was away from my family. It was a great experience. But let's remember; even if members of the military tend to lean Republican, are disproportionately religious, or disproportionately Southern, the military and its academies belong to all Americans. Update: Here's an article on the controversy from the local Colorado Springs newspaper. Here's an attack on the chaplain from Air Force Voices. The Mudville Gazette goes after Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State (I'm not fan of Lynn, but he wouldn't be pursuing this case if he wasn't given so much fodder). Cdr Salamander compares the investigation to a sharia court, and another bloggers says its a shakedown. Here is the Americans United for the Separation of Church and State report (pdf) that's at the heart of the controversy Posted by Blogadmin at May 13, 2005 11:20 PMComments
As a veteran myself, I tend to take mainstream reports about military life with a grain of salt. There aren't many bylined reporters out there with active duty in their backgrounds. I also note that the AUSCS report is loaded with "We understand that...We have heard that..." and the like. This doesn't really constitute, you know, evidence. And where there are confirmable incidents, they seem minor to me. I think, too, that it is important to remember who the targets of this so-called proselytizing are: these are high-achieving, tough-minded and disciplined men and women. I have the privilege of knowing several military cadets and prospective cadets in all three service academies. They are not unfocused, easily influenced high school grads. They are the leaders. They officer corps, back in my day, included young men who could command and effective campaign groups of hundreds of fighters and support technicians. Much as I complained about officers, they were then and are now, a rare breed. My own military service came in the days when the DI said on the first day, "What's your religion? Don't have one? Pick one." Which was dutifully stamped on your dog tags, and for the rest of boot camp, you attended your selected service on Saturday night or Sunday morning (I don't recall any wiccans in my company). After that, of course, services and chaplains were available, but not mandatory. I'll start to worry about the Air Force Academy when the cadets show up at graduation wearing homespun robes chanting songs in a dead language. Until then, I will assume that AUSCS won't be satisfied until they remove the Chaplain Corps from all the services. Posted by: Literally Retarded at May 14, 2005 07:54 AMI would just like to add that you can tell how inflammatory this issue is by the number of commenters. Posted by: Literally Retarded at May 15, 2005 11:51 AMFrankly, I think it is an issue assuming the story is true. The fact that these people might be strong minded is besides the point--they are still 18-22 year olds. And, anyway, what the hell business is it the Air Force Academy's to allow proselytizing. If the story is not true or exaggerated, that's one thing. But I don't see any reason to assume this chaplain is a crackpot. As for saying, we should only worry about the Academy when the cadets show up in robes, I find that offensive. I'm not one that thinks religious minorities should be able to dictate the religious practices of the majority in schools. But to have to put up with proselytizing is too much (again, assuming the story is true). Why should there be any incidents at all at the academy, whether they are "minor" or not? And it doesn't matter whether the cadets are bothered or not. It's my tax dollars and I don't want it going for religious proselytizing. Posted by: MWS at May 15, 2005 08:40 PMMy point wasn't that the cadets are strong-minded or not - it was that the story doesn't meet the test of common sense, given the so-called proselytizers and their targets. As to the "it's my tax dollars" argument, my suggestion is that you should withhold from the IRS that portion of your taxes which fund government activities of which you disapprove. Then let us know what your new email address is. Posted by: Literally Retarded at May 16, 2005 06:49 AM"As to the "it's my tax dollars" argument, my suggestion is that you should withhold from the IRS that portion of your taxes which fund government activities of which you disapprove." That's a ridiculous argument. Since when is religious proselytizing a legitimate government activity? This isn't a matter of disagreeing with the policy, this is a question of using tax dollars for something that is probably illegal. Posted by: MWS at May 16, 2005 09:58 AMReal nice blog! Rachel Posted by: Buy Propecia at May 18, 2005 07:25 PM |
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