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January 10, 2005Moral Quagmire?Mark Kleiman has a post on his blog referencing a story from Newsweek on MSNBC concerning a plan that the Pentagon is apparently considering to try to stem the insurgency. According to the story one Pentagon proposal would send Special Forces teams to advise, support and possibly train Iraqi squads, most likely hand-picked Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Shiite militiamen, to target Sunni insurgents and their sympathizers, even across the border into Syria, according to military insiders familiar with the discussions. It remains unclear, however, whether this would be a policy of assassination or so-called "snatch" operations, in which the targets are sent to secret facilities for interrogation. The current thinking is that while U.S. Special Forces would lead operations in, say, Syria, activities inside Iraq itself would be carried out by Iraqi paramilitaries, officials tell NEWSWEEK. The story compares this plan to the death squads used in El Salvador in the 1980s: Then, faced with a losing war against Salvadoran rebels, the U.S. government funded or supported "nationalist" forces that allegedly included so-called death squads directed to hunt down and kill rebel leaders and sympathizers. Eventually the insurgency was quelled, and many U.S. conservatives consider the policy to have been a success—despite the deaths of innocent civilians and the subsequent Iran-Contra arms-for-hostages scandal. Mark is pretty much outraged by this, especially this quote from a "military source": He said most Iraqi people do not actively support the insurgents or provide them with material or logistical help, but at the same time they won’t turn them in. One military source involved in the Pentagon debate agrees that this is the crux of the problem, and he suggests that new offensive operations are needed that would create a fear of aiding the insurgency. "The Sunni population is paying no price for the support it is giving to the terrorists," he said. "From their point of view, it is cost-free. We have to change that equation." Mark seems to think this is similar to the death squad activities in El Salvador and is, thus, beyond the pale. I think Mark is exaggerating somewhat here. It appears that this plan is designed to target people actively aiding the insurgents from outside the country, not merely sympathizers or political opponents as the El Salvador death squads did. Still, I think it raises some troubling questions about what we are getting into, especially to the extent that it truly is designed to create a climate of fear among the Sunni population as the story and Mark suggest. I should emphasize, of course, that this is just a plan apparently under discussion and not something that is occuring now (so far as we know.) It seems to me the crux of the problem is whether the insurgency is truly a broad-based nationalist movement or simply a sectarian movement controlled by ex-Saddam loyalists and Sunni militants. Obviously, the Administration believes or wants to believe it is the latter. My guess is it is a little of both. Posted by Marc W. Schneider at January 10, 2005 02:32 PMComments
This is asymmetric warfare. The Iraqi insurgents are clearly using terrorist tactics. But if we use terrorist tactics, what will become of the "War on Terror?" Posted by: rickheller at January 10, 2005 07:01 PMI really do not trust Newsweek's "anonymous sources". In this article, that's all there is. I honestly think Newsweek's journalists make them up out of thin air to support or refute points at their whim. If it was another publication I'd pause to consider the possibility that there was something to it. Newsweek's "anonymous sources" have been refuted too many times by relevant witnesses. Posted by: Susan at January 10, 2005 08:13 PMAnonymous sources are not ideal, but the only other possible sources are people planning their retirement. Unless the Bush Administration's official statements are to be taken as gospel, leaks have to come anonymously. Posted by: rickheller at January 10, 2005 09:05 PM
If it was that easy to find those who are giving aid, wouldn't we already be doing it? What makes these "squads" more adept at infiltrating sympathetic groups/individuals outside or inside Iraq? And if insurgents are slipping into Syria and Iran are we actually considering sending Iraqi forces into those countries? It's a recipe for a PR disaster. Posted by: scott at January 10, 2005 10:12 PMI second Scott's remark. Posted by: Bob J Young at January 11, 2005 08:54 AMScott, Good points. I did not intend to convey the impression that I thought this was a good plan. Susan, it is apparently impossible for any publication to write anything opposing Bush's policy that you will credit with any intellectual integrity. You say you "honestly think Newsweek's journalists make them up out of thin air to support or refute points at their whim." ON what basis do you make that claim other than the fact that you don't like what they say? Where are these examples of Newsweek's anonymous sources being contradicted? And what publication would you consider credible considering that you seem to think that any publication criticizing Bush is a left-wing rag working with Michael Moore to bring down the United States? Posted by: MWS at January 11, 2005 10:12 AMSounds a little like the Hmong of Laos. I'm imaging Kurd refugees in the US in the next 10 years. Posted by: Chris at January 11, 2005 02:08 PM |
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