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April 07, 2004

A Potential Convert?

Nathan Newman is a leftist who is showing signs of wavering.


So given my own ideological critique of the left on war, and my personal experience, I might be a good candidate for a "second thoughts" conversion to the right, or at least a nice neoliberal support for the war.

But if I know the leftwing sectarians well, I also know the rightwing. Maybe it's because I know the left crazies, it's easier to see the Bush folks in motion, since they have many of the same sectarian characteristics-- unwillingness to work in real coalitions, a binary view of the world into enemies and friends, and a will to fight war endlessly and globally. Which isn't surprising since at least part of the New Right, the neoconservatives, have a lineage partly as ex-Trotskyists, just like the Workers World Party. It's as if these two parts broke off, one siding with any enemy of the US elite however noxious, the other choosing to bolster any friend of the US elite however evil. Both believe in endless global war and military conflict, just as either side of the divide.

I don't buy either group's manichean vision, where I have to choose up sides in some global conflict between nations or global religions.


Nathan is still quite to the left, but it seems to me that he's taken the first step toward centrism, which is to realize that there are nasty folks on both extremes. Now, I'm sure some will object that he sees far-leftists and the current Administration as the extremes. But I intuit that he's made the conceptual leap, and could be nudged toward the radical center. (via Electrolite)

Posted by rickheller at April 7, 2004 09:03 PM
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Read the post more carefully- I had the same critique of the WWP sectarians back in the first Gulf War. Don't read my post as some centrist advocacy-- the Soviet Union and its dictatorial successors are not "the left", so if I reject them as well as the authoritarian right, that doesn't mean I'm lurching to "the right" or even "the center."

Think of my political position as "the bottom" against "the tops" in almost all elitist political formations, whether its political dictators oppressing people from the barracks or commissars offices, or economic dictators oppressing people from Wall Street.

I find it amusing when the sectarians try to label me a rightwinger and others try to claim me as a convert :) Check out this post on my political leanings versus the rest of the blogoshere for a good sense of my values.

An BTW there are incredibly nasty folks, always, in the center, since the center is often where power is, which attracts nasties of all kinds of non-ideological ilks.

Posted by: Nathan Newman at April 8, 2004 08:42 AM

That's an interesting point about the center attracting people who have no political principles except power.

I can think of a few chameleon types I know who become different people depending on the audience they're addressing. But while these unprincipled centrists may be corrupt, much of the real damage in the last century has been done by the true-believers, Nazis, Communists, fundamentalists, not sleazy politicians in the center who in their attempt to retain power, actual pander to voters.

Nathan, I didn't really think you were about to become a centrist. I was just being Pollyannish.

Posted by: rickheller at April 8, 2004 09:22 AM
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