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February 19, 2004Eisenhower on preventive war -- and moreThe last general to serve as president was Dwight D. Eisenhower, of course. Here are some very timely quotes: • “We have arrived at that point, my friends, when war does not present the possibility of victory or defeat. War would present to us only the alternative in degrees of destruction.”-- 1954 We also have this interesting history: In 1955 Eisenhower had his opportunity to wage preemptive war against Communist China after China invaded some islands near Taiwan (Formosa). Congress gave Eisenhower approval to attack China at the time and place of his choosing. Instead of attacking, Eisenhower sent his ambassador, John Foster Dulles, to Europe to gain support for a war; but Churchill refused, and so did NATO. If we went it alone, Pentagon officials assured Eisenhower that we could destroy China’s military capability within three weeks. I wonder what this general and president would say about the current administration's actions. It is said that 9-11 changed everything, but...??? (Also posted to CivicDialogues.org) Posted by Erasmus at February 19, 2004 12:57 PMComments
He would probably say "Hmmm, this Koran doesn't leave much room for diplomacy, does it?" Posted by: Justin at February 19, 2004 03:47 PMJustin: I think your comment is way off-the-mark. The Koran has provided spiritual nourishment for hundreds of millions for many years. Don't judge the many for the abuse of a few. Any religion can be twisted to serve the selfish ends of a few. I don't wish to offend, but I had to say that. Posted by: Erasmus at February 19, 2004 08:52 PMFair enough. As soon as some radical Christian, or Jew, or anybody else kills 3000 people in the name of God, I'll be the first to condemn that religion as well. Posted by: Justin at February 20, 2004 08:37 AMCome on you guys, stay on topic. Posted by: Ara Rubyan at February 21, 2004 09:45 AMDo you really think the 50 year old comments and actions of IKE have much significance today? He was talking about a war with an empire that we could not destroy without ourselves being destroyed. They were also no more eager to commit suicide than we were. In the 1950's, only one or two nations posed a serious threat to us. Small countries simply could not threaten us. Today, WMD proliferation changes the equation. Diplomacy is of limited use in dealing with fanatical organizations. Are you suggesting that the US is trying to achieve absolute security? or is trying to do it with arms alone? or without allies? From the very beginning, the US has been enlisting allies to fight this war. Many are cooperating in various ways, not just with military arms. Posted by: tallan at February 23, 2004 09:03 PMRemember that in 1955 we'd just signed a ceasefire in Korea the year before, that appeared unstable from day one. Ike had come into the Oval Office on the promise to get us out of Korea. The American public was sick of "unwinnable Asian land wars", and a foray into China a year later did not have public support. Furthermore, Russia and China had an alliance which presumed that an attack on China would also be answered by Russia. This applied to nuclear as well as conventional arms. This was the agreement that caused Truman to reel in MacArthur when the dear general wanted to stop the November 1950 entry of the Chinese into the Korean war by nuking China. Recall too, that Soviet and US troops faced each other across the streets of Berlin, and the Soviets needed only the slightest of provocations to move. The Europeans, several of whom had supplied troops for the Korean conflict, generally saw the worsening Cold War as demanding more focus at home. In the historical sense, this is apples versus oranges comparison. Posted by: TrooperJohnSmith at February 24, 2004 11:55 PMDid Saddam send his WMD's to Sinochem in the PRC? The above question is a logical one considering both what we know and what we do not know! What we know- What we do not know- Sincerely, Michael B. Hickland |
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