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February 19, 2004

Eisenhower on preventive war -- and more

The last general to serve as president was Dwight D. Eisenhower, of course. Here are some very timely quotes:

• “We have arrived at that point, my friends, when war does not present the possibility of victory or defeat. War would present to us only the alternative in degrees of destruction.”-- 1954

• “There is no way in which a country can satisfy the craving for absolute security, but it can bankrupt itself morally and economically in attempting to reach that illusory goal through arms alone.”

• “A preventive war, to my mind, is an impossibility. I don’t believe there is such a thing, and frankly I wouldn’t even listen to anyone seriously that came in and talked about such a thing.”-- Press conference in 1954

• “May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.”


We also have this interesting history:

In 1955 Eisenhower had his opportunity to wage preemptive war against Communist China after China invaded some islands near Taiwan (Formosa). Congress gave Eisenhower approval to attack China at the time and place of his choosing. Instead of attacking, Eisenhower sent his ambassador, John Foster Dulles, to Europe to gain support for a war; but Churchill refused, and so did NATO. If we went it alone, Pentagon officials assured Eisenhower that we could destroy China’s military capability within three weeks.

So, what did Eisenhower do? Did he bribe together a “coalition of the willing”, start handing out no-bid contracts, and mobilize the military? No, Eisenhower called together his top advisors and told them to find a diplomatic solution—which they did. There was no war.


I wonder what this general and president would say about the current administration's actions. It is said that 9-11 changed everything, but...???

(Also posted to CivicDialogues.org)

Posted by Erasmus at February 19, 2004 12:57 PM
Comments

He would probably say "Hmmm, this Koran doesn't leave much room for diplomacy, does it?"

Posted by: Justin at February 19, 2004 03:47 PM

Justin: I think your comment is way off-the-mark. The Koran has provided spiritual nourishment for hundreds of millions for many years. Don't judge the many for the abuse of a few. Any religion can be twisted to serve the selfish ends of a few.

I don't wish to offend, but I had to say that.

Posted by: Erasmus at February 19, 2004 08:52 PM

Fair enough. As soon as some radical Christian, or Jew, or anybody else kills 3000 people in the name of God, I'll be the first to condemn that religion as well.

Posted by: Justin at February 20, 2004 08:37 AM

Come on you guys, stay on topic.

Posted by: Ara Rubyan at February 21, 2004 09:45 AM

Do you really think the 50 year old comments and actions of IKE have much significance today?

He was talking about a war with an empire that we could not destroy without ourselves being destroyed. They were also no more eager to commit suicide than we were.

In the 1950's, only one or two nations posed a serious threat to us. Small countries simply could not threaten us. Today, WMD proliferation changes the equation.

Diplomacy is of limited use in dealing with fanatical organizations.

Are you suggesting that the US is trying to achieve absolute security? or is trying to do it with arms alone? or without allies?

From the very beginning, the US has been enlisting allies to fight this war. Many are cooperating in various ways, not just with military arms.

Posted by: tallan at February 23, 2004 09:03 PM

Remember that in 1955 we'd just signed a ceasefire in Korea the year before, that appeared unstable from day one. Ike had come into the Oval Office on the promise to get us out of Korea. The American public was sick of "unwinnable Asian land wars", and a foray into China a year later did not have public support.

Furthermore, Russia and China had an alliance which presumed that an attack on China would also be answered by Russia. This applied to nuclear as well as conventional arms. This was the agreement that caused Truman to reel in MacArthur when the dear general wanted to stop the November 1950 entry of the Chinese into the Korean war by nuking China.

Recall too, that Soviet and US troops faced each other across the streets of Berlin, and the Soviets needed only the slightest of provocations to move.

The Europeans, several of whom had supplied troops for the Korean conflict, generally saw the worsening Cold War as demanding more focus at home.

In the historical sense, this is apples versus oranges comparison.

Posted by: TrooperJohnSmith at February 24, 2004 11:55 PM

Did Saddam send his WMD's to Sinochem in the PRC?

The above question is a logical one considering both what we know and what we do not know!

What we know-
1) The PRC was the leading supplier of weapons to Saddam.
2)China National Chemical Import & Export Corporation
(Sinochem) a formerly state owned firm is the PRC's
largest chemical supplier and trading company.
3)We have documentary evidence proving that Sinochem
was trying to collect a US$4.2 Billion pre-Gulf War debt
from Saddam.
4) The Sinochem joint-venture's, Sinohawk (Overseas) Ltd.,
managing director told me in 1996 that Sinochem had supplied Saddam with the material that caused Gulf War
Syndrome.
5) We know that a Sinochem Director denied that the joint-
venture, Sinohawk, ever existed, even though we have evidence to the contrary and two U.S. judges found that it
does.
6) The PRC's Embassy in Baghdad was kept open throughout the Gulf War and the Asian Wall Street Journal
Stated that the Saddam/ Sinochem trade continued well
after the war's end.

What we do not know-
1) What exactly did Saddam buy from Sinochem/PRC
for US$4.2 Billion?
2) Why is Sinochem offering no explanation of the details
of their trade with Saddam?
3)Did Saddam send or return WMD's to Sinochem/PRC
in lieu of debt repayment?
and
4)Is there too much pressure on the media for an in-depth
investigation to take place?

Sincerely,

Michael B. Hickland
CEO
Global Healthcare Technologies, Inc.

Posted by: Michael B. Hickland at March 20, 2004 03:06 PM
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