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October 31, 2003

Uncivil Discourse

Drezner highlights today some comments from a couple weeks ago by Josh Chafetz of OxBlog. They serve as a nice summary of what's wrong with the political discussion in the blogosphere and elsewhere.

In my experience, most of what passes for political discussion or debate fits this profile:

This really amazes me. Are people really so sure of themselves that they simply cannot acknowledge that anyone who disagrees could be intelligent? Have they no humility whatsoever? Of course we all think we're right -- if we didn't think we were right, we'd change our opinions until we did. Maybe I'm just naive, but it really does amaze me when people claim that everyone who disagrees with them (on topics where general opinion is relatively divided -- I'm not talking about largely uncontroversial opinions like "slavery is wrong") is either malevolent, stupid, or both.

Why is it so hard to acknowledge that, on almost every issue, there are people on both sides who are both intelligent and well-meaning? That doesn't mean that neither side is right, or that you should give up arguing for your side. It just means paying the other side some respect, listening to their position, trying honestly to grapple with it. I'm not saying that there aren't malevolent and/or stupid people out there -- but they're on both sides of every issue, and on almost no issue is everyone on one side stupid and/or malevolent. It's fine to point out when someone is saying something stupid (or when someone is being malevolent). If they're malevolent and/or stupid often enough, it's fine to conclude that they, as people, are malevolent and/or stupid. But to conclude that everyone who disagrees with you is ipso facto malevolent and/or stupid ... well, I envy your certainty, but you frighten me. That kind of certainty is precisely what extremist movements of all kinds -- left and right -- are made of.

Posted by William Swann at October 31, 2003 10:22 AM
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I'n an earlier post, Why Do Reasonable People Differ I claim it comes down to personal experience.

In terms of nature vs. nature, smart people on both sides have been endowed with similar brainpower. Where we differ is on nurture--not just parenting, but what we experience as members of different religions, ethnic groups, social classes, and also random events which tip us one way or the other (e.g. whether we've ever been mugged) . We also tend to overvalue what has happened to us personally even if it is not the norm.

Posted by: rickheller at October 31, 2003 11:09 AM

I've got a thought, and also a little bit of a golden rule that I at least try to follow. This might actually be worth a post when I have time.

In psychology, they talk about something called the "fundamental attribution error." It's been a while so forgive me if I butcher it a bit and correct me if I'm astray. It says that people tend to attribute their own motives and deeds to circumstances but the motives and deeds of others to their nature: that they are acting with (malicious) intent." To use an ordinary example: Maybe I'm in a hurry to get somewhere and I sneak the car into a tight spot and cut someone off a little. They honk their horn and I'm thinking "sorry buddy but I'm in a hurry I'm late picking up my kid from daycare and they're starting to panic." The guy I cut off is just thinking "you selfish ignorant pr!*%ck."

Now what I TRY to do is follow a rule a professor helped me develop along the lines of "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity, and never attribute to stupidity what cen be explained by ignorance/lack of understanding." In other words, make an effort to give others the benefit of the doubt you'de give yourself. So really it's just a flavor of the golden rule. It's not easy. I'm not great at it by any means...next time someone cuts you off in traffic, try thinking "maybe he didn't see me" or "well he must be in the middle of an emergency". It's not easy or satisfying. Or even likely :-)

Posted by: brian keegan at October 31, 2003 12:54 PM

A very nice way of explaining the basic idea. Certainly worth a post, when you have the time.

I don't pretend that people will actually start following, or trying to follow, that kind of rule. I just think it's nice when people like Drezner and the folks as OxBlog discuss the overwhelming incivility of the blogosphere. Putting it on the table is a good first step.

Posted by: William Swann at October 31, 2003 01:37 PM

Brian,

I've never heard of this before, but it's fascinating. Please expand on it when you have a chance.

This is exactly what I see in attacks on Bush. Our inability to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq is assumed not to be evidence that the Administration was blinkered, made errors, but rather that it was all part of a maniacal plan. Moderates offer people the benefit of the doubt. Extremists give people the detriment of the doubt.

Posted by: rickheller at October 31, 2003 01:42 PM

Well, that explains a lot, actually. Try to move the conversation into a more humane place, and the freaking vultures flock all over you...

Posted by: Skip at September 2, 2004 07:00 PM
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